Image via Wikipedia Question 1: Which terror organization am I?
Our mystery organization was a militant group that operated in Palestine/Israel in order to free the land that had been promised to its people by the lord.
It argued that only fighting and terror could free their land from the evil occupier. No person is immune, and every killing is justified. I think the picture is clear, but just to be sure, a couple of examples:
- It blew up a hotel (and killed 91 people).
- It attacked a settlement (and killed 110 civilians)
- After 3 of its members were killed by the ruling army, it kidnapped two soldiers (and executed them).
Okay, who is our mysterious organization?
- The Hamas, of course, what is the question?
- Hmmm... not Hamas? Perhaps the Fatah
- I know, I know! it's Al-Qaeda!
- All of the above, these guys can't be trusted.
The parallels are astonishing. A terror organization, attacks civilians, kidnaps soldiers, and all in the name of freedom and justice.
Lesson 1 - Israelis should at least understand where the Hamas is coming from. It is part of our (hi)story as well. We did the same 70 years ago. People under occupation do crazy stuff.
Question 2: How did the main Jewish establishment respond?
You may think that the Irgun was a tangent phenomena in the Zionist story. But it wasn't. Actually, the parallels are pretty striking also here. Today the Palestinians have the moderate PLO, and back then the Jewish population under the British had the Hagana. But look what the Israeli government had to say about the massacre in the village I mentioned above, 20 years later:
"In 1969, the Israeli Foreign Ministry published a pamphlet “Background Notes on Current Themes: Deir Yassin” in English denying that there had been a massacre at Deir Yassin, and calling the story "part of a package of fairy tales, for export and home consumption"." (all-knowing Wikipedia). Just to be clear about the facts: there is no doubt that the massacre took place. This is why the Israeli Foreign Minstery did not publish this in Hebrew. But it did deny it in English.
Lesson #2: We should be tolerant towards the Palestinian response to the Hamas terror attacks. In times of war, people are willing to tweak reality and justify the most horrible actions. This is part of our (hi)story as well. We did the same only 40 years ago.
Question 3: How did this whole fiasco end? Justice was made with the people in charge, right? After all, the famous Jewish moral is aImage via Wikipediabove all.
How can I put it gently... well... not exactly. The person who head the Irgun during the events mentioned above was Menachem Begin, the person and the legend.
Rings a bell? Begin was later elected to become the prime minster of Israel. It also did some good - Mr. Begin gave up 2/3 of the Israeli territory, the Sinai peninsula, in exchange for peace with Arabs.
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Lesson 3: It makes sense that a head of a terror organization is democratically elected to head a country. This is not a good enough reason to boycott him. What are we, in kindergarten? Talking to him may actually do some good. We should know it, since it is part of our (hi)story too. We did it only 30 years ago.
Arye Mekel, who used to be the Israel’s Consul General in New York, said the following (and I am sure he was not the first): “A people that does not know where it is coming from, does not know where it is going."
It is time we take a closer look at our deeds. Where ARE we going?
Even after many years together you keep surprising me. I learned a lot from this post thanks to the fact that you put me for 15 minutes in "their" shows. Thanks for writing and please keep doing it. I love you and wish more people would keep questioning their own reality as you do. It takes us far from our perspective which allows us to feel, to think, to act, and to be human.
ReplyDeleteSo much I didn't know! Thanks for writing this.
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ReplyDeleteAlthough you know that I am in the peace camp - I have to say that I disagree with the way you present the information in this entry. You present SOME facts and leave out many thereby creating an unbalanced image of what happened historically. You do not mention how the hagana, then Tzahal (during '48 war) and then the Labor government reacted to The irgun and Lehi. (I won't go into all the details..only that they were shunned, their methods disputed, their arms blown up, their widows denied government pensions, etc) Yes, Begin was elected ..almost 30 years later.. after his party was ostracized by the Labor government (probably why he was then elected..but that's a whole other problem with Israeli politics). The Palestinians might benefit if they had someone (in power) who denounced Hamas and made efforts (like Ben-Gurion) to get rid of them.
Also..getting information from Wikipedia can be tricky..it is not an historical source..anyone can post what they want..
I know you are trying to show that Israel had/has its dark moments and characters (and I do not dispute that) and that all people under duress can do ugly things,however when presented ahistorically you distort the picture and that, I believe, does not serve the cause of peace, if anything, it can serve to fuel the fires of hate
Debbey, thanks for your thoughtful comments. I think that the picture that is displayed here is accurate, and here are few points to consider:
ReplyDelete- The comparison you make between the Hagana and the PLO is more valid than you think. You contrast these, but actually, they are very parallel.
The PLO is fighting the Hamas, both in weapon and politically. Furthermore, Mahmoud Abbas *blamed* the Hamas for the war in Gaza
- http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1230456495581&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
As you see, the moderate Palestinians oppose the terror and try to stop it.
Your second point was about Wikipedia. This is tangent, but Wikipedia was shown to be at least as reliable as paper sources (for example, http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4530930.stm). The main points is that I know these facts for... well, for a fact. I have studied these issues for years, and referred to Wikipedia only for communication purposes. I do not find any distorted information in this post. Partial - yes, since writing everything will fill up the internet. But this is not distorted.
Last, and most importantly, you write: "that, I believe, does not serve the cause of peace, if anything, it can serve to fuel the fires of hate"
I am so sorry you feel that way. As with people's personal life, I think it is important to realize that we should not disqualify someone else for things we ourselves do. My purpose was to show that the pot calling the kettle black (הפוסל במומו פוסל). I do not suggest that we are identical, only that there are many parallels.
Rather than pretending to be superior, it is time we find some compassion. I do not understand how this can fuel hatred.